This will often make them take the long way around the Black Sea in wars, slowing them down considerably. Make sure you get enough ships. Late mid-game and late game their troops have become much worse though, and if you play western tech you can usually crush significantly larger Ottoman armies in that period. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Revanchism. After you dealt with Genoa, you can complete the mission Conquer Caffa for a temporary trade power boost in the Black Sea. I smell a beefy QQ to their southeast, them declaring war would really shaft the Ottomans. Set them as a nation of interest and pay close attention to their wars. If your army has at least 20 Janissary regiments or over 20% of the army is Janissaries, and your stability is negative, you may be facing theJanissary Coupdisaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. Best advice for beating ottomans is simply stop being intimidated by their numbers and fight them. Although you can speed up conquest by using diplomatic entanglements, wars with the Mamluks will mostly be you chipping away at them over time. Ottomans tend to move a 50k stack alone , they move it without having some reinforcements nearby.So you can easily attack this 50k stack and maybe stack wipe it. Make sure you are stable both in terms of unrest and economy and move your armies to Morocco. Aside from sealing off the Black Sea and connecting your territories, theres mostly no need for you to conquer anything north of the Caucasus mountains. If you are fiercly religious don't make it your mission to take their clay and convert it but force their country to answer to your god. FML. Valve Corporation. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at EU4: theDar al-Islam. Even if you don't plan to attack them, using this tatic will slow their development as you keep them from taking Constantinople (or Byzantium, or Istanbul, if you will). You can now complete the missions. Afterward, you can focus on expanding your coastal possessions to gain more power in the Horn of Africa trade node. If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. This war can be tricky since Hungary could have a high discipline. The Ottomans will have pretty good discipline, a large manpower pool and a good economy for mercs. After finishing up Sicily and Morocco, you can cross the Strait of Gibraltar and siege Spain itself. Its fundamental throughout this guide that you use little diplomatic entanglements to further your conquest. Then declare (3-4 months later) and invade the opposite front. Either kick them in the teeth very early, or wait till later in the game after their power has fallen off. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. After all, it was my first time playing this game. AE won't matter (No one will really care if you gut the ottos except maybe hejaz?). Just like in actual history, France and the Ottomans make quite natural allies. After youve wreaked Havoc in Arabia, Africa, and Persia, its time to confront Spain. Who would win? If you manage to get to around 60% war score, then you could demand a province with a fort that you haven't occupied. Fortunately, theres a good chance these guys are allied. i play a lot vs ottomans playing as hungary, which is weaker than poland/plc, but very similar. 11 Dec 1444 war Ryzan and take there land as it has feudalism, vassalise Tver if they are in the war. Press J to jump to the feed. Play smart, have forts in mountains/hills/swamps. As any war would just be you and them vs the Ottoman. With my aggressive expansion pretty high in Europe, its time we shift away. With a strong navy you can win half the war (or more accurately, 25%, because that's what you'll get for fully blockading them). If Medina still exists, you can likely vassalize them to speed up your conquest. Imo wars in eu4 are less about fighting and more about sieging, especially later in the game with the Imperialism CB where you need to siege your opponents capital down asap for easy WS and WE. Pick one difficult achievement from steam (preferably one that is owned by less than 1% of players) and start a campaign with that achievement as a goal. their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Ideally, you managed to cripple the Spanish armies trapped in Morocco, so the Spanish may not put up much of a fight. Dont give them land though, thatd be a waste of your precious war score. Numbers don't mean a whole lot when you can't fight quality+co and offensive for a +15% discipline is good (discipline boost tactics too, so its very good). If they also lag in mil tech you've got 'em on the ropes. You can run up their war exhaustion very easily. I also connected my Crimean holdings to the mainland, so I can defend it more easily. . Really, it's all about planning your idea groups to maximize the quality of your army. Press J to jump to the feed. Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. This will deplete their manpower to zero, cause them to take out loans they can't repay and raise their WE to 20 very quickly. Although they may be weak, theyre sitting on at least one province we need to restore the Caliphate Cordoba- and they may have taken Sicily, where we need two provinces: Palermo and Messina. I set up two: the Ottoman Hormuz Company and the Ottoman Horn of Africa company. In my game, I had a problem. aside from just taking quantity ideas myself, what can i do to counter this? You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. Since you cant annex vassals during the war, use your moments of peace to start the process. Unfortunately not everyone is able to buy all of them. And while it's faster than walking, it can still take like two years if you need to get your one main fleet back from the East Indies to Europe, which can be really annoying. Get them to a high war exhaustion and then white peace them. Dont even consider fighting the Ottomans if you arent allied to several strong nations like Austria, Russia or the Mamluks. JavaScript is disabled. Don't just make it all Light Ships. Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. Ally a powerful nation nearby, such as Great Britain or Scandinavia, and snake your way to Paris from a coastal province. One of the biggest flaws for the Ottos is that they're very spread out across three continents (most of the time) meaning they are pretty prone to splitting their forces. After Military Tech 16 (I believe?) You are using an out of date browser. If youre allied to Naples, call them in only now. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. The best way to beat this navy is to snipe their fleets which they like to spread out since Mare Nostrum. Revanchism might have something to do with that https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Revanchism. So what i prefer to do is basically base race my opponent and take down any forts blocking my way to their capital. Or, just annex Russia and use their force limit. This EU4 Ottomans Guide is currently for patch 1.33.3 and with all DLCs installed. Eventually, they won't be able to sustain these wars as efficiently from the constant lack of manpower and they'll be taking loans for merc armies. The Ottomans have a unique tech group, Anatolian, which starts out with some of the best units in the game, but they tend to fizzle out the later and later you go. I'm thinking No CB on Byzantium on day 1 -> vassalization of Byzantium -> Get PLC as an ally -> return all Byzantine cores is the most viable option now since otherwise their endless manpower just annihilates anything in their path midgame. Keep attacking them as soon as that truce is up. Alternatively, you may be able to ally with Russia. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, takeNaval Ideasto give yourself an edge. This might not be as helpful as all the comments but I'll just post my observations: I've noticed ai Ottomans tends to overexert themselves near late game with nonstop wars. 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Sometimes even the mighty Ottomans get in over their head. Allies are arguably the most important point. Stay at war until they lose Egypt, Syria, and Greece. In the previous part, we covered the remainder of the Age of Discovery and built the Ottomans from a major power to a powerhouse. Although you can speed up conquest by using diplomatic entanglements, wars with the Mamluks will mostly be you chipping away at them over time. Thing is, I don't think there is an easy fix to this because, as I said, optimal play happenes as a consequence of how the game is designed. With both of them weakening, I swooped in and strengthened my position in the Balkan. Here are some of the issues I encountered, as well as how you can act on them, should the situation arise. Now that youre the Caliphate, the world truly lies at your feet. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. Make sure to at least take Pest for theBibliotheca Corvinanagreat project. But other than that i think army management in Eu4 is nice. If he goes for other nations, it's just easier for you to carpet siege all the forts you want. when you reach tech 19 units, they wont stand a chance, Usually what I do if I know I need to eventually fight the Ottomans (for an achievement). Integrate the vassal after theyve cored all of Sudan for you since hanging on to Ethiopia will be trouble for them. Upgrade your centers of trade to turn Constantinople into a powerful trade node while developing your centers of trade. Once youve successfully taken Samarkand, the one area you still need for the Caliphate is Thatta, in India. I might be able to get France on my side too. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this EU4 Ottomans guide. Its a lengthy process for sure, but use the guide as a reference point to guide yourself through the ages. In the late game, at military tech 19 (for infantry) and tech 18 (for cavalry) The Ottoman units will have less unit pips compared to the western tech group. As others have mentioned, you can beat quantity with quality. I easily beat them, even stack wiping them sometimes. Premiered Nov 19, 2020 1.3K Dislike Share Save Zlewikk TV 98K subscribers EU4 has already 16 expansions in their library. Anyone who dislikes Spain is your friend, in this case. They will then continually build more troops there for you to destroy. The longer you drag the war out the better. Can you afford mercs? After that, make Paris a state and assign a Pasha to it in the corresponding maintenance screen. After you declare war on Morocco, focus on landing an army on Sicily and taking down the Spanish and Moroccan holdings in Africa. Quite manageable. . They're frankly not nearly as difficult to beat as commentary on this sub would have you believe. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. I had about 100k troops and France, Austria, Venice, and Brandenburg on my side and we all got crushed, leading me to believe the Ottomans are just naturally supposed to dominate. Just getting all of the arriving divisions to the front by rail is enough, not to mention everything else. Remember to enact the fortification edict on all provinces containing a fort, especially in your capital. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. You don't need any military idea groups or military national ideas to wipe out the Ottomans. needs you to core Rome, Moscow, and Istanbul. If you need a repeatable method, dont annex Morocco after youre done. No you're not. Don't get confused by map size. Congratulations! Going to war with them when they are in another big-ish war on another front helps a lot. If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. Especially if you got France on your side, the Spanish got a bigger fish to fry, so the heartland lies right open. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. I was playing as Byzantium and was able to defeat the ottomans with Poland Austria and Hungary in Early game so just save scum until you can beat them. Techs that give tactics are also a nice advantage, but not as big of an advantage as morale. The Ottomans are very susceptible to blockades because they have such a big coastline. If you share borders, build some forts and have some battles with -1/-2 modifiers. If you can't do that, at least guaranteeing them (if you're strong enough, of course) will keep the Ottos out for some years, wait for them to be on a long war, cancel the guarantee and attack after the truce. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. Aside from forcing the Russians to take a long way around, your imperial heart will be safe, which works miracles for your prosperity. That's why my new. While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. Conquer the World as the Ottomans etc. Ottoman Empire became modern day Turkey lol. With both of them weakening, I swooped in and strengthened my position in the Balkan. Late game - wait until their troop strength falls below western strength. If Byzantium was at war with the Ottomans, you now become the war leader and can call in all of your strong allies (e.g. The Ottomans have both quality and quantity, which is what makes them so scary. From there, you can also go back to the southern tip of Arabia and take out the states in Yemen there before youve dealt with the Mamluks in Arabia. You must log in or register to reply here. Perhaps it's worth breaking truce with them as well. disaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. Prussian troops stackwipe Ottos easy in the 1600s. From 1500 onwards, its time to fight anything, anywhere, all the time. Make sure you are not behind their mil tech level or you will be destroyed, as such it's recommended you weaken them early, They tend to pick a discipline advisor to combo with their 5% discipline tradition, recommend to get as much morale as you can, Use terrain/good generals to your advantage, Get as many good alliances as possible but never declare if they are behind the ottomans in mil tech, You can deny their cores, which is one of the main sources of their strength, You can call a crusade against them if you're the pope which can give you good bonuses. Its also important to consolidate your holdings at home. All my games are achievement runs. What (military) ideas do you have? Simply take some Spanish lands and repeat after the truce timer runs out. I'd suggest playing more aggressive in your conquests, or try to botch them early on because that always works best. When you attack a mountain, or a fort, or -worse- a mountain fort, you have a good chance to be defeated. I am playing as Venice , Ironman, Beta 1.13 . You can attack the Spanish head-on, but this might bring in some difficult allies. Punch Syria out of them if you can. If you focus on taking down the Ottomans you can't be giving them respite. Spain might lend a large army in Morocco, so be wary when and where you attack. Luckily for you, the AI in Eu4 is incredibly stupid, so you'll likely only face a portion of their full military at first, and this is a wonderful time to stackwipe a third of their forces. More governing capacity means more states, and more states means more money. It was something like 250/month ,but thanks to owning both North and South America I had huge treasury plus huge monthly income so it was no big deal. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Not saying quantity is worse, cause quantity is AMAZING for what it does, which is usually worth it for countries with either eh or downright shitty land and therefore economies, but outclassing the Ottomans is the key to victory in this case. I have a good navy and army but I definitely can't beat them alone. Although its tricky to avoid, its possible to increase your chances to keep Fezzan alive long enough to let it fall into your sphere of influence. Build strong Alliances around the Ottomans so you can call them in when they are weak. If you also have to fight your next target only take cash for shorter truce. This part is for those players who are trying to complete the Unify Islam mission, in which you unite all corners of the vast Islamic world under a single Caliphate once more. Purchase some mercenaries in Benghazi and siege down at least one of Fezzans provinces, like Sirt. This has a simple reason: Spain. Most states are weak, meaning you can diplomatically conquer most of them.. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission toConquer Al-Ahsa. I wasn't attacked even once during my sieges and once I scored 100% I liberated some countries and absorbed enough provinces to get me to around 100% over extension. How to beat Ottomans as Poland It is 1505, I annexed Danzig, Mazovia, Lithuania as a junior partner, and Austrians as my allies. You may be able to take the Nile Delta, but this could be too expensive at this time. So their tech 12 infantry are the same pips as western tech 15, giving you parity, until tech 19 when you can edge ahead. I personally wouldn't ally (all) big nations around the Ottoman. . Is there actually a way to check to see if Janissary Decadence is fired, or do I just have to declare on them and see who gets stackwiped? Just take as much provinces as you can. Proceed to stomp the Ottomans, and get them to return all Byzantine cores. JavaScript is disabled. This is part 3 of the Ottomans made easy EU4 guide. The Mamluks sit on the main trade nodes directing trade from India and China to Europe. Otto was huge though and Lithuania was getting routed, but I knew that was going to happen. Time to make some new friends, I guess. Use them to take a lot of land for cheap, and use Russia to distract the Timurids in the north. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. I always take Quality + Innovative for that insane +20% Infantry Combat Ability policy. Hungary, Austria, Poland) for free. Focus on taking away their economic base. The more of it is under your control, the less will be under the control of the Spanish. The Serbians, Bulgarians and Greeks can easily be swayed to revolt if you let the Ottomans drown in war exhaustion, keep them occupied, wait for the rebels to rise up, then sign a peace and let them deal with the problem. Poland/Lithuania, Russia, France, Austria, can be very useful if you gang up on the The Ottomans. To maximize your trade income, consider addingWealth of Nations to your DLC list! its either that or biga), sinope, amasya. However, history wont stop us! I took Tripoli, Jerba, Susa, and Tunis and gave everything south of that to Fezzan. Privacy Policy. Basically, you get some strong allies for yourself. Youre very powerful around this time, so allies might be willing to become vassals. Whereas we matched the historical Ottoman sultans in previous episodes, well one-up them in this one! Valve Corporation. And dont forget to fabricate a claim, of course. I always do a little DLC recommendation to make the run more fun previously I recommended Cradle of Civilization and Rights of Man. their units start to not keep up with different tech groups making them weaker. I decided to take Crete as well, but not yet more of Dalmatia. Ifni is a very poor province, so it doesnt cost much to take. Who are your allies? You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. So be prepared. . You can take small coastal ports when you peace out their allies to gain an early foothold. You can assign far-flung territories to trade companies to help you bring in some extra ducats. . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If you had a strong Russia, France, and Austria. Definitely the Sultan of Rumneeds you to core Rome, Moscow, and Istanbul. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Ally (a couple) big nation(s) to make them not want to attack me to give me time to prepare. You can now also complete the mission. Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up. Let me know your thoughts in the comments! This is typically when other great powers take their opportunity to declare war on the ottomans so they end up fighting 3 wars at once. Form Russia and own all of Asia by the end of 1820, defeat the Ottomans as Hungary and get Jerusalem and Mecca. Dont give them land though, thatd be a waste of your precious war score. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Are the Mamluks still around? They dont grant permanent claims, so only do them when youre ready to attack Hungary once more. If you're a relatively powerful nation like PLC, Hungary, Austria, castille, etc, you can just straight up declare war and beat them before they get big. Then, take 100% worth of war score demands on top of those rebel enforcements, including annulling their treaties. Thanks anyway :). The best way to beat any AI is to let them bleed all their manpower in small stacks, so try to and block the Bosporus if you have naval advantage and let small stacks through (small here being less than 20k or so), then wipe them with a numerical advantage. Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up. . From your base in Morocco and Spain, it shouldnt be hard for you to break your alliance with France and declare war on them. I'm the 3rd great power in the world and they're the 1st. The next time they declare war on them, I will also declare war. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. There're a dozen different factors that go into something like this, and without a photo, it's very difficult to gauge. Optimally you want them to release bulgaria. Youll gain claims on this area with the missionConquer Mocha, that you get when youve conquered the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula. , that you get when youve conquered the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula. They still haven't taken out mamluks. This selection contains highly anticipated releases, sequels, ports and some f We're in the home stretch! Soon enough, Ottoman Empire was just busy quelling rebellion rising in half the provinces and all I had to do was siege. I just needed to buy enough time to take Tunis/Crete out of the equation. They have really high income so privateering in their nodes wouldn't do much. Try to break up their alliances. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. Even if the Spanish took Ifni, you can take all the provinces in a single war. Its useful for you to take this before a rising threat, Russia, can show itself. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. As many as you can. You deal with their numbers by stackwiping their troops with quality and composition. By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. Make sure to take the cities of. You can also shoot forParisian Pasha. You can check the Ottoman's development and your own in the ledger, but a rough estimate based on experience and the dates you provided would put you at about ~500 development and the Ottomans at ~1000. Like for example, if you get quality, economic, and offensive finished, that's +15% discipline. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, take. Yeah, they like doing that. Rinse and repeat to make them a non-factor eventually. When you fight with the Mamluks, make sure to expand into Saudi Arabia, towards Medina and Yemen. I'm on 700 development with 89 provinces, they're on 878 development with 93. Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. I cant forget to mention the use of trade companies at this point. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If I put all of my allies into one battle (Me, France, Venice, Nogai, Genoa) then I might have a chance, but now I've had to dissolve the Venice alliance so I didn't get dragged into a war with just me and Venice. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Take Crimea. They started taking ex-moldavia area and are now beating up Venice, I get what you mean, their base from the provinces is 107 while mine is just 38 :(. I had a mighty Spain to deal with that expanded deep into North Africa and threatened my expansion plan. Also wipe the troops they will continue building in Europe before they can coalesce into an army. It's probably a bit late now anyway, once I finish my first game I'm getting a couple of the DLCs and probably not playing as Lithuania again. Congratulations on restoring the Caliphate! In that war, I took Constantinople and Edirne to stop them from crossing the strait without going around. In around 225 hours of EU4 I have not once beaten the Ottomans, mind you. Keep that Navy under constant pressure. After youve wreaked Havoc in Arabia, Africa, and Persia, its time to confront Spain. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. We also established footholds in Persia, Egypt, Libya, and the Caucasus, which we can use to expand further. They are Sunni with the Shafi'i school and have the unique Mamluk government. Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. Cookie Notice You can try and hunt down some Ottomans-unique achievements as well. You can also take some holdings on the Arabian peninsula to make future conquest easier. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) Use them to take a lot of land for cheap, and use Russia to distract the Timurids in the north. Proceed to stomp the Ottomans, and get them to return all Byzantine cores. If you want to spice up lategame i recommend some RP. Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. Ally a powerful nation nearby, such as Great Britain or Scandinavia, and snake your way to Paris from a coastal province. By doing so, youll deny the Russians a strategically useful area of operations, and protect your core land. As others have mentioned, you can beat quantity with quality. Upgrade your centers of trade to turn Constantinople into a powerful trade node while developing your centers of trade. At the time the achievement fired it was all of France and Netherlands essentially. Its useful for you to grab important Caucasus provinces early. Sadly its very hard because not only do they have quantity, i believe its +33% land force from ideas. Take the tribal kingdom to the south as your vassal. It's a bit cheesy though. I still had Ajam as a vassal, which gets cores on much of Iran. around 1510. Otto was huge though and Lithuania was getting routed, but I knew that was going to happen. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I'm just trying out Muscovy once more after not having played for while and lo and behold the Ottoblobs get Crimea for free. I'd take Constantinople and Edirne so you have a land block of the Bosporus and the Ottos can't move their troops through. Occupy all provinces except one. 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