Jason Isbell performs in Gulf Shores, Alabama. If youre just joining us, my guest is Amanda Shires, and her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. This is FRESH AIR. We would sleep on the floor in the closet there because she would do the night shift, because she would was going to school in the daytime for being a nurse. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. Lawrence Rothman has been a model of self accepting themselves. SHIRES: And I think Sheryl Crow plays bass on that one. They all feel good, he says of making records, and they all feel really bad when youre working, simultaneously.. GROSS: The bail bondsmen are often their offices are often located in a very low-rent part of town. What happened between now and then? So I started just taking notes on the radio because in 22 songs, [I heard] one womans voice and it was a Carrie Underwood song from six years before that or something. And then and neither of them told us that stuff. But I had about seven different album sequences going on. And I know that he feels the same way I do. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. Soon after a Supreme Court draft ruling that would overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. So Im going to ask you to play one more song from your new album, to perform it for us. And the other parts, youre just kind of asleep. All Rights Reserved. Shes also one of the founders of the group the Highwomen. (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, HAWK FOR THE DOVE), GROSS: Our digital media producer is Molly Seavy-Nesper. "Last night you walked me to my car / You said, 'You won't be getting far before you turn around,'" she sings, her phrasing seesawing and scampering. Do you think God still sees me, coming out of this twilight sleep? she asks, before the band carries the song out with a powerful extended coda. The singer, songwriter and fiddler found comfort with an unexpected collaborator and plumbed new depths on her latest album, Take It Like a Man. Amanda And then, really, while the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made The Highwomen be a thing. Then her character takes control of the exchange in a teasing tone. Its just like you would expect, but theres real, scientific proof for it now. But for me, I was just happy to be up there playing music I loved. "I did a parking lot pirouette / I said, 'You're right I'm not done with you yet.'" Its an often-times divisive topic, and I dont want to bring any hurt to my family by doing something like putting out a song about this topic, but I lost all that fear when I got angry. So I couldnt really get into it. In 2020, she penned an op-ed for Rolling Stone about why abortion rights matter. SHIRES: I mean OK Im going to call her up after this, too. In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. SHIRES: About singing, yes. And then I thought about Waylon [Jennings] and Kris [Kristofferson] and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, They were kind of speaking about ageism. I said, Itd be cool if I had a band, The Highwomen. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. And we met. And I was really into that. And she came over and I showed her. NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WTVF) Three months after an emergency heart transplant, Grammy-nominated keyboardist, producer, songwriter and artist Peter Levin I would have died; my daughter, Mercy, would have lost her mother; my husband, Jason, would be a widower. 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Lets get back to my interview with singer-songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. Long before weathering the isolating COVID-19 pandemic, Shires had endured years of studio experiences where producers and musicians undermined her I would she would set us up in the in the closet of the bail bonds office. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires, and her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back. SHIRES: Oh, right, in Alcatraz. But finding a voice now and sharing their stories now is as good as any time. Because thats not how I go into songwriting. Musician Adia Victoria also tweeted at Isbell and praised the artist for continuing to put the health and safety ofhis crew, my band, venue employees and fans first and foremost, to which he replied with three heart emojis. And Im coming for you like a hawk for the dove. Do you think you would have been able to have the surgery if abortion had already been banned in Texas? Why werent you accepting it? GROSS: So that was the Highwomen, which is a song performed by the supergroup The Highwomen, which was co-founded by my guest, Amanda Shires, and Brandi Carlile. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid- feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows (Asheville, Louisville, Columbus, Wilkes-Barre, and Wilmington). Whereas before, I would just, in my mind, wish it was something different like Etta James or something. All the time, the want, the overwhelming volume of breathing. And Tommy said, if you can hold down that lower third harmony and Id love to, you know, have that spot filled. And why did you want to work it into a song? Editors picks GROSS: Amanda Shires, how did you decide you wanted to write a song about abortion? And then she wanted to know if it was real, so she hired a private investigator and all this. I want Garth Brooks out there telling people that womens health is a priority. You know, like, how does that go? Thanks., RELATED: Jason Isbell slams Morgan Wallens appearance at Grand Ole Opry: Not surprised Just sad, Jason Isbell on the road, hummingbirds, fan requests and critical thinking in America, Jason Isbell on COVID vaccine mandates at concerts: No, were not taking away your freedom. And it also made me stronger in the fact that I could feel comfortable singing about it and talking about it. People will have to prove that they have been raped. SHIRES: Oh, yeah. And I followed a dress code. She was in her home recording studio with her fiddle and with guitarist Zach Setchfield, and they played a few songs. You can call me serious trouble. Live Nation also announced a vaccination requirement for employees entering events, venues or offices, which will take effect October 4. Our business and our industry is about uniting people, and vaccines are one of the greatest tools for making sure that everyone can continue to enjoy live music together, CEO Michael Rapino wrote to the companys employees. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. I mean, many songwriters would say, oh, theyre not about me. The 100 Best Albums of 2022. I believe thats when that that became not an option. And that song, its part my story and part, you know, stories I know from friends. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. Lets get back to my interview with Amanda Shires, a great singer and songwriter who also co-founded the band The Highwomen, which is a kind of all-star country music band. Ive found and scrounged and continue to for every interview that hes done in any form, in any language. Life cant help but interfere. Sign up for Rolling Stones Newsletter. This is FRESH AIR. And then and the words are amazing and always brought me a smile. So one of the things you learned, like, I think in the past few years is that your grandfather had spent years in prison. SHIRES: Ive listened to all of his records. GROSS: Without him asking? Learn more about his tour. You may opt-out by, U.S. GROSS: Amanda Shires, its been such a pleasure to talk with you. And Zachs going to play guitar. On August 10, my life was savedthese are some dark days.. Look at Texas' Primary. So thanks to them as well. They arent helping. How Trump's Team Conned Susan Collins Into Dooming Roe v. Wade, Add Abortion to the List of Things Republicans Are Blaming for Uvalde, Want to Know What Politics Looks Like After Roe? Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. 1,286 talking about this. And we met. Shires started playing fiddle professionally when she was 15 with the band the Texas Playboys, which used to be led by Bob Wills, the father of Western Swing. Opening with solemn piano chords, The Problem features Isbells voice first, then Shires joins, and the pair trade lines as they move the story along. I heard witchcraft in the whispers and I knew my time had come. SHIRES: On August 9, yes, I was in Texas at Austin City Limits. That way, there could be a more kind of a wider effort to try and have the conversation with folks and realize that youre not alone. Thats what I want. Trump Melts Down Over Murdoch Admitting Fox Lied About Election Fraud, If you say those things out loud, it makes a difference. But theres a medication you can take that aborts the fertilized egg from your fallopian tube. You can say I lost my grip. We have to work hard now to mobilize and help people vote. It goes, (singing) I woke up this morning, and I looked out my door. And he said, well, you can always put it on there and just choose not to answer questions about it and, you know or you can he was pushing for me to leave Fault Lines on there because it is a good song, as he said. And because of that, I felt like we should make it something thats as safe as it can possibly be. Here's why. photos by @alyssegafkjen And I think they probably had conversations that you would, if you were that close to each other, about that stuff and didnt bring it up. Related I guess for awhile youve been looking for the exit. I said, itd be cool if I was The Highwomen or maybe had a band The Highwomen. You have your fiddle with you. And Bob Wills was, like, the father of Western Swing, which combined country music and jazz. Shires told her producer Dave Cobb, who also served as bassist in the album's indie rock-leaning band (with Isbell on lead guitar), "My violin needs to sound like it's in an aquarium, but more bright. / And the fear that I feel when I see my features reversed in my own daughter's face." Just admit Im what you want. I think a lot of women are born healers and nurturers. And (laughter) I, like, played the part. You used to lean in like I was whispering, any excuse to get near again. And, you know, she. Note: NPR's First Listen audio comes down after the album is released. And then coupled with the pandemic and all that, he was on self-preservation mode, and I was too. Shires would go on to make a name for herself, both as a solo artist and as the founder of the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time A woman threw a house party with 65 men she matched with on Tinder and Hinge and connected with the man she's been dating for a year. Demographer Diana Greene Foster conducted a 10-year study tracking both people who had abortions and people who were denied abortions. And that, to me, was incredible, because they had abortions in what was a pre-Roe v. Wade environment and theyre only now sharing their stories for the first time. The Mandalorian Season Three Gets Off to a Disappointing Start But I just got up on a stage and took the fiddle and started playing it. She gets pregnant and wants to have an abortion, although she doesnt feel great about it. GROSS: Thats the title song from the new album. Cancelling shows feels awful, I know. In 2017, for her solo work, she was named emerging artist of the year at the Americana Music & Honors Awards ceremony. SHIRES: I feel like its a little nasally, and I wish it was, like, a little bit lower. I had no problem taking direction, but and I had no problem helping when I needed to help, so. Here Are The Republicans Who Want Him Kicked Out, Rupert Murdoch Must Tell Fox News Hosts To Stop Spreading Election Lies, Congressional Democrats Demand, Trump Attacks Rupert Murdoch And Fox NewsAgainClaiming Destruction Of America Amid Defamation Lawsuit, These U.S.-Listed Stocks SurgeAlibaba, Baidu And MoreAfter Chinas Economic Rebound, Top NFL Prospect Jalen Carter Charged For Alleged Role In Fatal Street Race, Bite-Sized TikTok Poetry Blows UpAlong With Growing Claims Of Plagiarism, As Delta Variant Spreads, Artists and Venues Scramble to Keep Concerts Safe, Live Nation Allows Artists to Require Vaccination or Proof of Negative Test Result for U.S. Concerts. During "Break Out the Champagne," Shires wryly relates an account of a female friend who was dumped by a dullard, only to realize that he'd never really satisfied her anyway: "I'm rock and rock and roll, and you're golf." Its all control.. Amanda Shires appeared on The Late Late Show to perform her recent song Take It Like a Man. Playing with her band, the singer offered an emotive take on the And she was doing the bail bonding on the night. But if you dont, youre going to be wondering, What didnt I do? Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. "Through a sunset, shifting gears, to the something better shining diamond clear.". Well close with the opening track from Amanda Shires new album. The next year, she won a Grammy for best americana album as part of her husbands group, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. You dont see a lot of men speaking up, and every voice is helpful. The song is named "Parking Lot Pirouette" for its protagonist's graceful forwardness, her decisive movement to prolong a pleasurable dalliance. That last talk left me a makeup rainbow of tears, turned everything blurry. 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