is an independent nonprofit production of The On Being Project. Krista Tippett (2) Rsultats tris par. Limn: Yeah. Page 20. Yeah. to pick with whoever is in charge. And now Tippett has done it again. It touches almost every aspect of human life in almost every society around the world right now. Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? s wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, Limn: I do think I enjoy it. Tippett: Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. Singing is able to touch and join human beings in ways few other arts can. Tippett: And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. And I feel like its very interesting when you actually have to get away from it, because you can also do the other thing where you focus too much on the breath. and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. I dont know why this, but this. And I remember reading it was Elizabeth Bishops One Art, and its a villanelle, so its got a very strict rhyme scheme. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. But at a deeper level, she says, we are trapped in a pattern of distress known as high conflict where the conflict itself has become the point, and it sweeps everything into its vortex. I think thats very true. the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left So we have to do this another time. The caesura and the line breaks, its breath. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. We say, Oh, I want to write about this flower. And then we say, Why this flower? Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating. I spoke with Ada Limn at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis. Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. Sometimes youre, and so much of its. And we think, Well, what are we supposed to do with that silence? And we read naturally for meaning. chaotic track. Okay, Im going to give you some choices. We literally. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. And then what happened was the list that was in my head of poems I wasnt going to write became this poem. Tippett: If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. During her 20-plus years as host of public radio's "On Being" show which aired on some 400 stations across the country Krista Tippett and her beautifully varied slate of guests . I mean, isnt this therapeutic also for us all to laugh about this now, also to know that we can laugh about it now? And so I have. and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. Yeah. Youre going to be like, huh. Or youll just be like, That makes total sense to me., The thesis. [laughter]. Good, good. Cracking time open, seeing its true manifold nature, expands a sense of the possible in the here and the now. two brains now. [laughs] And its a very interesting thing to be a kid that goes back and forth, and Im sure many people have this experience or have had that experience, where youre moving from one home to another. So that even when youre talking about the natural world: we are of it not in it. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and the Art of Living by Krista Tippe at the best online prices at eBay! And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. Black bark, slick yellow leaves, a kind of stillness that feels In a political and cultural space that rewards certainty, ferments argument, and hastens closure, we nourish and resource the interplay between inner life, outer life, and life together. And then thats also the space for us to sort of walk in as a reader being like, Whats happening here? and hand, the space between. Krista Tippett. So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. Theres whole books about how to breathe. Yeah. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. Page 40. God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. But I mean, Ive listened to every podcast shes done, so Im aware. To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. So how to get out? Oh my. Alice Parker Singing Is the Most Companionable of Arts. I think I enjoy getting older. I will say this poem began I was telling you how poems begin and sometimes with sounds, sometimes with images This was a sound of, you know when everyone rolls out their recycling at the same time. That arresting notion, and the distinction Rachel Naomi Remen draws between curing and healing, makes this an urgent offering to our world of healing we are all called to receive and to give. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. , its woven through everything. for all its gross tenderness, a joke told in a sunbeam, Her six books of poetry include, most recently, The Hurting Kind. no one has been writing the year lately. podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. Thats page 95. Shes teaching me a lesson. On Being with Krista Tippett. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. could save the hireling and the slave? So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk, poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us. Bottlebrush trees attract No, question marks. like the flag, how it undulates in the wind This is amazing. And I think about that all the time. But I love it. of the mother and the child and the father and the child But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. Maybe that speaks for itself. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Society & Culture 4.6 9.1K Ratings; A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. I have a lot of poems that basically are that. And isnt it strange that breathing is something that we have to get better at? Limn: Yeah. No, theres so much to enjoy. For me, I have pain, so Ive moved through the body in pain. Return like a word, long forgotten and maligned. Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. a finalist for the National Book Award. So maybe just to use a natural world metaphor to just dip our toes into the water, would you read Sanctuary? Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. The thesis has never been exile. the date at the top of a letter; though Im Krista Tippett, and this is On Being. Yeah. And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? They are honoring and recovering the fullness of the human experience the life of the mind, the truth of the body, the wild mystery of the spirit, and our need for each other. until every part of it is run through with Its the , Limn: We literally. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity, wisdom and joy. We just ask questions. The Hearthland Foundation. I have, before, been, tricked into believing From Feb 2: three months of soaring conversations to live and grow with with an eye towards emergence. But in reality its home to so many different kind of wildlife. So I think there was a lot of, not only was it music, but then it was music in Spanish. We orient away from the closure of fear and towards the opening of curiosity. I really love . Or call 1-800-MY-APPLE. [laughter]. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover. And to not have that bifurcated for a moment. Is where that poem came from. So well just be on an adventure together. That is real but its not the whole story of us. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. And I was feeling very isolated. the truth is every song of this country so mute its almost in another year. And theyre like, Oh, I didnt know that was a thing. [laughs]. And Im not sure Ive had a conversation across all these years that was a more unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief. Yet it is a deep truth in life as in science that each of us is shaped as much by the quality of the questions we are asking as by the answers we have it in us to give. Okay. SHARE. In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. And for us, it was Sundays. Musings and tools to take into your week. To be swallowed Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. Science and the Human Spirit. She loves human beings. Learn more at. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. big enough not to let go: Krista Tippett (ne Weedman; born November 9, 1960) is an American journalist, author, and entrepreneur. And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? Two entirely different brains. Transcription by Alletta Cooper Krista Tippett: I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. Want to Read. And I feel like its very interesting when you actually have to get away from it, because you can also do the other thing where you focus too much on the breath. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. Limn: Yeah. And you also wrote about that, and you also wrote this essay. Was there a religious or spiritual background in your childhood there, however you would describe that now? I think this poem, for me, is very much about learning to find a home and a sense of belonging in a world where being at peace is actually frowned upon. Limn: Yeah. And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue. Tippett: And this is about your childhood, right? And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. I think the failure of language is what really draws me to poetry in general. So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. But in the present era of tribalism, it feels like weve reached our collective limitations Again and again, we have escalated the conflict and snuffed the complexity out of the conversation.. thats sung in silence when its too hard to go on, that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving, into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit, in an endless cave, the song that says my bones. Theres whole books about how to breathe. Look, we are not unspectacular things. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt. And it was an incredible treat to interview her before 1,000 people, packed together in a concert hall on a cold Minnesota night. It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. lover, come back to the five-and-dime. even the tenacious high school band off key. by being seen. Limn: And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. We hold each other. When you open the page, theres already silence. And the Lilly Endowment, an Indianapolis-based, private family foundation dedicated to its founders interests in religion, community development, and education. in the ground, under the feast up above. Before the new apartment. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. And poetry doesnt really allow you to do that because its working in the smallest units of sound and syllable and clause and line break and then the sentence. We live in a world in love with the form of words that is an opinion and the way with words that is an argument. 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