Thank you everybody for everything! To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. } Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. problematickpop:. Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. ga('ads.send', { You need to Register or Login to view the content it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. "Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo," read one tweet. The world doesnt revolve around America and our issues, not everyone has their eyes on America 24/7. Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotRenderEnded', function(event) { document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. Anyway, just my thoughts. For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. 5) Again, I included the Kangin thing because I have seen a huge amount of fans get upset by it. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. If it had just been misheard or a mistranslation, why would they censor it? Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. Yes, I should have checked the links. We hope that you will help to educate us on these and other issues so that we can become better people and better artists.. So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. }); The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. } I dont think they take care of their bodies well, Performed with Boom, while he was donning blackface, Called N from VIXX fucking trash among many other things, sneaked into a room in which girls were sleeping and touched them, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, that scenario must have looked like a drug deal., Implied negative things about Goo Hara dating around a lot, If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). Its much appreciated :-), Im KOREAN TOO, and shes lying, i will post a video with the REAL ONE and gonna call you out too.-. I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. And this links back to other instances of Hwasa being called out for cultural appropriation, the most recent being her wearing what appeared to be a traditional Nigerian outfit on the MBC show 'I Live Alone'. A lot of my followers have been a huge help and Ive learned a lot myself. I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Firstly, Im fairly sure I missed stuff, but also, a lot of it is somewhat interpretational. The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. 1. **All colorism is bad, but i think its fair to say that whenever Tao or Kai try to deflect colorist comments onto each other, it is usually a form of defence mechanism that stems from internalised colorism. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. The word Hwasa has become a synonym for trash in the eyes of many K-pop fans, which in turn leads to them believing it is acceptable to beat her down as a defection of their own kpop favs. Thats not true. Maybe ive just checked really bad websites. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. Yes I should have included more context. You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. This brings us now to the true reason for this article. Daily persecution? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy kpop stans w/o any recipts https://t.co/rBMH79ZvlD, HELP i dont like hwasa but some of yall going a little to far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too ngl i let out a couples laughs tho#AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/GbxXzX6Fna. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. ourbridgeisforever:. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), In response to the criticisms of how I was presenting my information, they are valid criticisms. Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. pg.acq.push(function() { The song itself did not originally contain the word, but the lyrics Hwasa was using were taken off the Melon website, which did. pg.acq.push(function() { if(document.querySelector("#adunit")){ Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. You need to Register or Login to view the content. Threads: 138. They apologized. Thanks for posting this. if he simply stated that he thought they were gay/trans, then there isnt a problem because theres nothing wrong with a person being gay/trans. As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. If you haven't, let me enlighten you. Im getting upset the more I think about it lol but really its just a lot of misconceptions; sometimes culturally and linguistically, that Americans like to hold a grudge against. In this video, they wore blackface. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. You need to Register or Login to view the content. Their sound is diverse, but can best be described as a mix between jazz, retro, and R&B. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? The next big issue made public came when Solar dressed up as a Korean beggar from Train to Busan (2016) for their next ending concert video. I recently fell in love with these girls again after I took a break from kpop. but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. Fans welcome to spam photos, videos, gifs, to talk about Mamamoo, Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, Hwasa updates, music, content or anything. They have been affectionately dubbed festival queens as they attend a great many every year, always ready to hype up the crowd and turn every event into a Mamamoo concert. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. Compare this to some other idol groups with rabid fanbases, any controversy and they're ready to defend their idols to the point of issuing death threats to the critiques. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. Not saying they should be excused for the things that have hurt other peoples feelings, but I dont think causing controversy or hurt would ever really be their intention for anything. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. or for the life of me find it again so this is unsourced for the time being. cc @sexeyXR @chsjason @Mata10. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on their controversies and I'll admit it hurt to read so many people hate on them since I was with them when they debut and immediately fell in love. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. hitType: 'event', Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. In terms of overlooking, I'm not sure what is expected since they've apologized for their actions and speech and the apologies have been pretty prompt. The thing is, it is not just another joke. i love exo. And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. That crosses every sort of line. ga('ads.send', { The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. This was such a good response. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. hitType: 'event', Hope that all made sense! With the Henry thing, I also understand where youre coming from. I will put just a fraction of some of the hate comments they receive every day down below. i am so so tired. 2. yeah, suju has done problematic stuff and i agree, we shouldnt defend it or excuse it, its good to have that kind of discussion. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. Twitter for Android 1 Quote Tweet 8 Likes Who can reply? Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. I know they've apologized for many of their other problems they faced but seriously, the hate is so overwhelming. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. Ive also seen Chanyeol and Baekhyun fans criticise them for the stuff theyve said/done, but move on and continue to be their fans, which is also a personal decision. I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), mamamoo has been giving neck to neck competition to redvelvet but kpop fans always considered redvelvet above them because redvelvet is a sm group but now its time to accept the truth.. Mamamoo is easily gonna out live redvelvet, mamamoo members have resigned and will continue for long meanwhile redvelvet is pretty much done after irene scandal and no news of members re-signing because they . Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. not excusing it or defending, but Henry was a little boy from Canada, and that kind of fan service is really odd in general to the West, Id hardly call that problematic. The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. }) But that explanation was also not bought by many. I feel like stepping back will give me more time to learn and expand my horizons and less time to speak on topics I dont actually know much about. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. Kpop music (as all music) is rightfully and obviously for everyone but i'm kinda surprised how big of a lesbian following kpop groups like mamamoo and dreamcatcher have and to some extent TXT, with other groups it doesnt seem to be that way. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. While it is common for artists to tease their comebacks for up to a month, the time they spend on promoting the new music in conventional ways such as music shows and variety show appearances has decreased by . Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. Im aware people can be incredibly childish when it comes to offensive stuff in kpop, almost like its some game, like, there are actual people who look forward to exos next fuckup as though its not something that deeply upsets people. RBW then said they would work to educate themselves more on cultural sensitivity and the struggles that the black community and various other POC communities have undergone and continue to go through. Posts: 310. It hurts my heart to see people bash them like that, it really does. ", #AskHwasa biggie or tupac? Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. The controversies surrounding Mamamoo sometimes hurt for sure, because you can tell that theyre pretty genuine in who they are without putting on too much of a show, arent out to get or hurt anyone, and are capable of realizing when they have made mistakes. Her confidence has grown through the years, due in part to her role models such as Beyonce and Rihanna, with Hwasa even saying in a now viral video Soon, I found myself promising this: If I dont fit into this generations standard of beauty, then I will have to become a different standard but prejudice based off looks has always been the sore button topic for her. It is absurd. One user asked, "Which culture did u enjoy appropriating the most," while another quipped, "Can we have a spoiler? I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. Im simply complying a list of things that could be perceived as offensive or problematic so that fans can decide for themselves. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Purple Backs) Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Mint Backs) CD version comes with 3 photocards. 6)not excusing it or defending it but [continues to make an excuse for Henry] Sorry, but yes, you are trying to make up excuses for him. and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. Im aware people hold stuff against suju quite a lot, especially in comparison to other problematic groups like BigBang and 2NE1, who I rarely see get criticised, but that doesnt counteract the fact that suju have messed up before (because theyre human beings). Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name Thank you~). Personally, from the time that I've been a fan, Mamamoo has usually apologized/acted contrite for any controversies that they've caused. I really dislike fat girls. when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. eventAction: 'render' }); It is common in America to wear red puffy wigs as the stereotype of a clown, however it is not as common in South Korea, which is why Hwasa wore braids as the hair to her outfit. ", Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? They are also one of the very few groups to have not only have won an Immortal Songs episode, but won three separate times with Backwoods, Wonderful Confession, and The Dance In Rhythm (this is typically something only done by veteran singers, as idols competing have to win over an all-age audience). Fandom Name - Moomoo Sub-Unit - Mamamoo+ Japanese Website Twitter Japanese Twitter Instagram YouTube Japanese YouTube Fan Cafe Tiktok Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. I'm sure I'm still unlearning a lot of things today. Their members consist of Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, and Hwasa, with Solar being the oldest and leader of the group. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. }) }); The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. Sorry this got a bit long but I appreciate you responding. If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. but its hard not to be. I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. }); Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. People are accusing me of purposefully portraying all the members on the list as villains and not including their apologies. My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . Im still slightly dubious because I dont have the whole video and Im a cynical person but I would like to sincerely apologise for any misinformation I have spread, as it is honestly not what I intend to do with this blog. Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. But i was told online that even after apologised that they did it again but I couldn't find anything that showed that the only thing I found was Solar doing a beggar impersonation SNL in 2016 but that's not blackface or colourism as I have seen people try to argue, as homeless do get dark or tanner as they are unable to clean themselves properly and are outside all the time. }); I didnt put in a lack of effort because its Super Junior though, if I had been making a BigBang masterpost instead, that would have been the one with little effort put into it. Call me out for what? document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. #1. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And Its Only Getting Worse. As for the criticism of my post in your tags, I still feel like it was appropriate to include the Kris thing, though I understand why some people dont think its offensive/problematic. And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. ; _____; aaaa. I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ , Shindong quickly explained, Im fairly sure I 'm sure I 'm sure missed. Its not problematic like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend of... 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